1. Yes, it's a whole new look! Have questions or need help? Please post your question in the New Forum Questions thread Click the X to the right to dismiss this notice
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Seeing tons of unread posts after the upgrade? See this thread for help. Click the X to the right to dismiss this notice
    Dismiss Notice

Ugly Sign by the fountain

Discussion in 'Broadlands Community Issues' started by jamesmkelly, Aug 19, 2015.

  1. jamesmkelly

    jamesmkelly Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2005
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    7
    Ron Meyer has decided to post one of his large campaign signs by the fountain. Numerous residents have already complained to the HOA. He has posted this sign illegally as he does not have the permission of the HOA.

    Please contact Ron directly via the following methods and have him remove the sign:

    571-421-5818
    ron@ronmeyer.com
    @ron4VA
    facebook.com/ronmeyer2014

    I'm sure he would appreciate as many calls as possible
     
  2. Zeratul

    Zeratul Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2006
    Messages:
    1,720
    Likes Received:
    121
    If the sign is placed illegally, on privately owned property (common HOA property), isn't the HOA just going to go remove it? If it is not removed today then I would expect that is fair warning....
     
  3. jamesmkelly

    jamesmkelly Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2005
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    7
    The HOA said they will remove it but have not yet. I will contact them and Remove it tomorrow.

    I spoke to Ron Friday night and specifically told me the only signs he will put up are at polling places on election day. He flat out lied to me.
     
  4. Zeratul

    Zeratul Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2006
    Messages:
    1,720
    Likes Received:
    121
    unless it was a "supporter" who decided upon themselves where to place the sign. The fact that he was told about it and did nothing says more about his character than anything. The...I didn't do it... defense is not applicable in this case IMHO. Thanks James... and if you need help removing it or need a witness let me know....

    Dave
     
  5. jamesmkelly

    jamesmkelly Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2005
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    7
    I actually witnessed him doing it.

    The county will also be giving him a call today to reiterate the requirements. I was also informed he does not have any required permits, so any sign he puts up is illegal.
     
  6. rhova

    rhova New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2012
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    3
    Yup, we saw him putting it up too. Was surprised to still see it up this morning.
     
  7. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2010
    Messages:
    1,471
    Likes Received:
    60
    I contacted this so-called political hack, Ron and this is what he has to say to me....He thinks my personal email is an anonymous account (??!?!? I have had this gmail account FOR YEARS and use it with everyone that I correspond with!!!) All I said was: Please remove and comply with the county regulations on political signs and people have SEEN you put it up. Now, he's calling witnesses liars?!?!

    " Please don't use anonymous accounts--I am happy to respond to real people.

    You are incorrect about many of your claims.

    That land is not owned by the HOA, it is owned by the Van Metres--who told me exactly where to put the sign. We have permission, and I hope you will stop spreading lies. We're trying to make your commute better and we're running on real issues.

    Thanks, "

    He sent me a follow up email stating:

    And, by the way, we have talked to the county and are complying with all regulations. -

    Ron Meyer

    http://ronmeyer.com


    Geee......don't all politicians lie anyway?
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2015
  8. stoner

    stoner Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2006
    Messages:
    162
    Likes Received:
    22
    Mr. Cap - I believe you owe Mr. Meyer an abject apology. According to the somewhat confused information you included in your post from Mr. Meyer, the sign is apparently located on Van Meter property (as is the fountain), and he was given permission to place it there. The HOA is not involved in the issue.
     
    Ghost likes this.
  9. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2010
    Messages:
    1,471
    Likes Received:
    60
    I am only the one that is told to apologize? So the others before me like James Kelly et al don't need to apologize? Interesting.....

    Since he doesn't think Im a real person, Im not about to apologize anyway. ;)
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2015
  10. Zeratul

    Zeratul Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2006
    Messages:
    1,720
    Likes Received:
    121
    Stoner - why would the HOA tell the homeowner they will remove it if its Van Meter Property? Seems like there is enough confusion to go around. Do you need a permit to put a sign on Private Property? I don't think so. If this indeed Van Meter property then it would seem he is within his rights to do that, with permission. BUT....

    I am surprised though that Van Meter would allow something like that right around such a public space for all to see....especially considering it makes it look like our community is giving him an endorsement. If there is nothing protecting the community from this, I would bring it up to the Board for further investigation. IMHO there should never be any political signs on HOA property. Maybe that sign will always be Van Meter but we should try and get clarification on how they plan to handle this kind of issue in the future before the Trump signs show up.
     
    boomertsfx likes this.
  11. jamesmkelly

    jamesmkelly Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2005
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    7
    I was misinformed of the property owner and it is indeed owned by van metre. That was my error. As of this morning, he did not have a required County permit to place any signs in the county. The Zoning Administrator spoke to him directly and he will be getting the permit.

    Despite my error, he was still breaking the law and still lied to me.
     
  12. jamesmkelly

    jamesmkelly Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2005
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    7
    Zeratil- in lost circumstances you are required to have a permit to place signs on private property. These rules are outlined in County ordinance section 5-1200.
     
  13. Zeratul

    Zeratul Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2006
    Messages:
    1,720
    Likes Received:
    121
    thanks... good to know. I have not had an issue before with this stuff but the one by the fountain seemed to be one of these cases...

    Dave
     
  14. jamesmkelly

    jamesmkelly Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2005
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    7
    Additionally, signs cannot be placed in the VDOT right of way under VA code 33.1.369 and other sections. Permitted signs under 5-1200 usually required a specific distance from the right of way. This can vary between 5ft to over 100ft depending on the section of road. If you see signs in the median or directly by the side of the road (political or otherwise), contact the county for removal:

    http://www.loudoun.gov/index.aspx?nid=1750

    As by evidence on Mr Meyers FB page, he has violated this law as well
     
  15. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member Forum Staff

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2002
    Messages:
    5,332
    Likes Received:
    231
    As do every campaign every year... and the county doesn't do jack about it. The plastering of highways with the political signs (dozens and dozens in a row) are obscene.
     
  16. jamesmkelly

    jamesmkelly Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2005
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    7
    Agree on the campaign signs. When the volunteer sign removal program was in place, thousands were removed. Coincidentally the board disbanded the program the following year.
     
  17. Capricorn1964

    Capricorn1964 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2010
    Messages:
    1,471
    Likes Received:
    60
    The board disbanded it because it was AFFECTING their own campaigns and they did jack about cleaning up the mess once they either lost or won the election. They also wanted developers to put money into their pockets for campaign purposes....they were afraid that the developers wouldn't donate to them if they allowed their signs to be yanked....Go figure.
     
  18. jamesmkelly

    jamesmkelly Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2005
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    7
    I could not agree more.
     
  19. vacliff

    vacliff "You shouldn't say that."

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2002
    Messages:
    5,098
    Likes Received:
    215
    There's another reason the county sign program was abandoned...they were being used for political purposes by the parties.
    For example, I ran for the Board last time around. I had permission from several entities to post signs on their property.
    Mr. Kelly tried to stop me from posting them. I informed him that I had permission from the property owner, they were out of the right-of-way, and he therefore had no authority to remove them.
    Then, a local Democrat official saw my signs and called his fellow local Democrat party official, who was also one of the county "volunteers" to remove my signs. Which he did.
    A resident told me she saw him doing this. I had to call him, explain he was now stealing private property, and he went back and reinstalled some of them. Never did get them all back.

    So, some programs have good intentions but still get abused by some for their own perceived political gain.
     
  20. jamesmkelly

    jamesmkelly Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2005
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    7
    Cliff-. That is why I stopped and spoke to you about them. You were one of the few following the rules. Most do not.

    Some folks abused the program. It was clear what was allowed and what was not. Several folks were removed from the program.

    It would be much easier if they just outlawed political signs all together. The majority of the signs placed are illegaly, but the candidates just don't care that they are trashing the county. Signs in the median block vision, are a distraction to drivers and are a hazard thus the reason for the state law prohibiting them. If the candidate breaks this law, and puts the public at risk, then what will they do when they are in office?
     
    Chsalas likes this.

Share This Page