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Discussion in 'Community Broadband & Computers' started by srahman22305, Mar 12, 2004.

  1. srahman22305

    srahman22305 New Member

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    I read the thread on Verolan and I wanted to ask a related question.
    Has anyone heard of a firm doing beta=testing on Advanced 802.16 equipment in the broadlands area. I have a friend who told me they were giving out flyers at the Safeway. _ NO activation fees. Plus you can roam with your IP in a Metro Area.

    This would be the way to go, no line of sight issues - specially considering the next wave of Intel chips are going to come with complaint gear in 2004.

    Please post info if you got one of these flyers..
     
  2. Pictor Guy

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    I didn't think Wi-Max hardware was going to be out until after mid year. But if that's true it would be very good news.
     
  3. Mr. Linux

    Mr. Linux Senior Member & Moderator Forum Staff

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    srahman22305, Hornerjo and I both lead the Broadlands Broadband project as part of the HOA Tech Committee. While things have been very quiet since the Verolan fiasco, we're still keeping our eyes/ears open for other possible solutions. Please feel free to post any information you have from the flyer here or send me an email with the information.
    Thanks in advance.

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  4. srahman22305

    srahman22305 New Member

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    i got a call in to my friend this weekend. As soon as I hear something I will come back here and post it.

    I did not get the whole story of the other wireless isp?
    Did it not work? it was too expensive for everyday users..
     
  5. hornerjo

    hornerjo Senior Member

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    Verolan (the wireless ISP) had a few problems with certain programs running over the network. Like Peer to Peer applications and certain online games. I can't speak to the current situation of Verolan, but at the time of 3-4 months or so ago any one user running these programs would just about knock all the others on the same tower node offline. Verolan may have fixed it by now, it's been pretty quiet on the Verolan thread.

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    The Verizon service is promissing but it's not available west of rt28 so we're still out of luck. By the time we see it, the offering from Nextel or other WiMax service may be available.
     
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    Ok - I got hold of the guy who is working with the firm
    here in Ashburn. They are actually testing some of their
    backhaul stuff -5.8 GHZ - NLOS Equipment. Was told there
    maybe some ads for beta-testers in the near future.

    Sounds like a more stable gig at least for now. Do I post
    here with info as I get it?
     
  10. hornerjo

    hornerjo Senior Member

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    Please do, thanks!

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  11. chattycat

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    Uh, I'm a wireless techno-lamo. Can my son, who just brought his laptop home which has a wireless card, get internet connection at my house (without plugging into my OpenBand connection in wall) if I don't have a wireless setup? Hope I'm asking the right question. Thanks...
     
  12. boomertsfx

    boomertsfx Booyakasha!

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    maybe if your neighbors have open access points =)

    if not, you'll need to get a wireless AP/router.
     
  13. hornerjo

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    Yeah, you will need to install a wireless AP/router. There are a ton of them out of different models, and run around $70-200. A popular one is the Linksys 802.11b and g (g is faster) models. You can see those at http://www.linksys.com/. Best Buy and CompUSA sell them and are fairly easy to install.

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    I just got one of those. It's easy to install and I locked down my network as soon as I went live [:p]
     
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    P.S. g isn't faster for Internet, since Internet is slower than b.

    But if you plan to transfer large files between his laptop and your other computers, you may want 802.11g.

    --Joy
     
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    DSL and Cable is slower than G. I don't think an OC-48 much less an OC-1 in the real world is slower than G. ;)

    After all you did say Internet (capital `I'). [:eek:)]
     
  17. srahman22305

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    maybe i ought to do some searching before i post.

    but seems like there is enough technical talent here.
    Why isnt there an effort to setup up a residential
    hotzone and other parts = rather than wait for some
    ISP to come along and charge us a storm...

    any thoughts? is it just a funding issue
     
  18. Pictor Guy

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    I was just being a wise guy and taking you literally. But you're right about the speed issue as it applies to most people in a residential setting.

    As for the hotzone, I have been considering doing something local to my street if I can get enough interest. I would rather do it over copper but since that would be hard I would consider putting an antenna on the roof if there is enough interest. But I don't think a WiFi wan in 802.11b or 802.11g would work very well due to congestion in the airwaves. That would leave 802.11a.
     
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    what kind of congestion? Have you done any interference testing with a spectrum analyzer?
     
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    We drew up several plans for a residential hotzone, but believe me - it begins to get very hard to set up and maintain once you get down to the technicalities; such as:

    How do you pay for it
    What technolgies do you use
    - If wireless
    --limitations on people per AP
    --limitations on where you can put antennas/sectors
    --where do you put the backbone(s)
    -Who maintains it and provides user support
    -Who has liability
    -Who installs it, if rootop antenna installs who has ladders, insurance, etc.
    -Who takes up collections...

    The list goes on. Believe me, we went over this numerous times at the Tech Committee meetings and even met with half a dozen different providers and a couple of us even took a tour of a major wireless equipment distributer. We ended up with working with two wireless providers that died before they even got a single customer, then VeroLan came in and got it all working. We're still keeping our eyes open on anything new coming out. So far, the EvDO wireless technology has the best hope. It can do ~30 miles and if both Verizon and Spring get it working out here we could see some competition.

    John

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